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Cults Of Jesus

Posted in 1 by activecitizen54 on January 31, 2010

Cults Of Jesus.

One of the things that I do in being this “activist” in life for LGBT humans is confront the bigotry and hate whenever it rears its ugly head.  In light of this I took after the church sponsoring the “Boycott Houston” call.  The preacher, David Grisham, is calling for a boycott of Houston after Anise Parker, a highly qualified professional who happens to be Lesbian was elected.   The ensuing email thread is indeed enlightening.

I wrote:

“Cults of Jesus hate and fear-mongering are being exposed more and more every day.  This Cult of Jesus you inflame with hate and fear is recognized for what it is.

When are you putting the “Christ” back in “Christian?”

“Pastor” David H. Grisham responded:

“Read the Bible.  Only then will you know Christ.  Jesus is not the person the culture says He is, He is who the Word of God says He is.  There is a huge difference.  Do not rely on cultural heresay about God.

OK, I can deal.  The man doesn’t bother to answer a question but charges right into this diatribe based in the assumption that the person writing to him is less than he.

So I responded:

Sir:

I have read the Bible in 3 versions, the Qur’an, Siddhartha’s Dharmas, The Tibetan Books of Living and Dying and the total works of Joseph Campbell.

No where, within any of these texts, does the hate and fear you espouse appear.

It is perhaps incumbent upon you to understand the message of Christ and to restore the “Christian” message into your Cult of Jesus hate and fear-mongering.

Demigods, as you attempt to present, are too often known by their clay feet which have a tendency to shatter with the least amount of examination.

You are the very embodiment of evil, the lowest and most vile of creatures.  That you promote the hate and fear in the name of Jesus Christ demonstrates a deep and abiding ignorance and emptiness of soul.  You obviously feel this hate for reasons founded completely within yourself and to those of us who are reality based; this speaks volumes.

Your Cults of Jesus are exposed and there is nothing Christian about you or your positions of hate that are supported within the Bible.  When you come to know Christ as Lord and Savior you will understand the Love of God the Father.  Perhaps you could find some support within PFOX or Exodus International that may help you understand the error of your ways.  You can change.

In America I am free to worship as I wish and I am Constitutionally guaranteed freedom from religion as much as freedom to worship as I chose.  My personal relationship with God is none of your business.

Whom the LGBT community loves is none of your business and these humans are God’s creation complete with the attributes they express in loving and committed relationships, real loving families with children, mothers, fathers, siblings and all the human condition.

Your new Mayor is a woman of honor, hard work, dedication, a loving and devoted partner of over 20 years duration and has raised 3 children, 2 still at home.  This is a highly skilled and valued child of God whom you denigrate and abuse in these kinds of hateful acts.

The Christ I know as an active and loving son of God would probably be crucified at the door of the Cult you create.  Your Dominionist position is offensive, your hate is offensive, your lack of respect for others is far from Christ-like and the Cult you attempt to inflame is discredited.

I wish you no ill will.  I wish you just to go away…  Hate in silence.

Thanks,

The “Pastor” David replies”

“You do not know the word of God.  I do not care about the other writings you mention as they are not the truth and are not worthy of respect.  If you have read the Bible as you claim why don’t you just prove your argument by the scriptures?  PROVE by the Bible that what we are espousing is hatred.  I await your response.”

Here is that vile and bigoted position of ignorance clearly framed by this creature who does not care about anything beyond his Bible.  Anything beyond this construct is not worthy of respect.  I guess that says it all.

My immediate response is:

No sir!

I have nothing to prove to anyone.  The living God that I know is one of Love.

You define your ignorance in your acts.

Do unto others.

That would be a good start.

Your Cult of Jesus is discredited, ultimately discreditable and beyond the scope of civil human behavior in espousing hate.

Read your Bible and pray you find forgiveness for what you’ve done.

There is no debate and no grounds for discussion.  You make it perfectly clear that discussion must be framed within your petty construct of the world and that’s not how reality works.

I pity you the world you exclude from hate rather than include with love.

Cults of Jesus, you sir are not Christian in any sense of the word.

Thanks,

Of course the psychotic “Pastor” David fires back:

“Again you make baseless claims that we espouse hatred that goes against the teachings of Christ..

But you cannot quote scripture to prove your point?

You have not read the Bible as you said you have or you would be armed with the truth.  The bible does indeed say “God is love” but it also says, “God is a consuming fire.”  How do you reconcile those two scriptures?

What do I need forgiveness for?  What sin?

Be specific.  Quote scripture… if you can.

OK, I admit it, I really just should’ve ignored the hate-monger and let it go.  I didn’t, I couldn’t help myself but respond:

You sir fail to grasp the point.  I will not, within any conversation or discussion with you base an argument, discussion or conversation upon the flawed and erroneously translated selections of Hebrew texts that Constantine, Gregory and many others have manipulated through time.  I grasp your dominionist and ideological foundation and will not engage in the dance.

I am armed with the truth.  The truth of love of the one true God who gave his only son to remove the Hebrew laws you are so fond of quoting but fail to adhere to.

My claims are far from baseless in that they are founded in the very acts that you have taken in mounting your Cults of Jesus campaign of hate.

As one who burns with the light of truth I understand the love of the creator and the messages clearly.

I have pity for you.

Good night.

And once again the psychotic “Pastor” David Gresham spews:

If you deny the written Word, you deny the Living Word Jesus Christ.  Jesus did not abolish the law.  If you had read the Bible as you claim you would know that Jesus said, “I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.”  He also said “not one jot or title of the law shall pass away until all is fulfilled.”  The law is still valid and in full force for those who do not accept Christ as their Savior.  You serve a false God of your own creation.  Jesus said (John 14:23-24) that those who love Him keep His Word and those who do not keep his Word do not love Him.  Jesus also HATES sin.

Did you know that?  Says so right in Hebrews 1:9.  Are you sure you know the Bible?

Immediately after this missive demonstrating the self-justification of hate and probably because I refused to respond came this:

By the way, homosexuality is a sin.  Both in the Old Testament (Deuteronomy) and the New Testament (Romans chapter 1) and (Corinthians 6:9-10) for starters.”

There is no way on God’s green earth that I am responding to the hate this creature spews with righteous indignation from his inerrant text (King James version from the quotes) and support group.  This is the foundation of the hate and fear.  I will not rise to the bait and will continue to speak out against this Cults of Jesus hate and fear-mongering.  I pity the creature for the tyranny it attempts to impose and understand all too clearly the psychosis behind this type of construct.  The belief system is what is important and there are some whose hearts and minds are never swayed.

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  1. Ervin Dockins said, on February 22, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Very interesting post. Couldn’t of written any better. Reading this post reminds me of my old chum. He always kept speaking about this. I will forward this post to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing! 🙂


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