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Talking Points on the Homosexual Agenda

Posted in 1 by activecitizen54 on February 1, 2010

Talking Points on the Homosexual Agenda

From the urging of JoeMyGod comes this quote inquiry:

“The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press – in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past years.”

Who said this?

Answered from sophiescholl – Talabangelists

This week American Family Association Fuckwit Bryan Fischer said that all homosexuals should be put in prison. Backing up belief by saying, The bottom line here is that, biblically, those “who practice homosexuality” should come under the purview of the law just as much as those who take people captive in order to sell them into slavery. You express a belief in the Scriptures, and I trust your confidence in Scripture is not selective. If you believe all Scripture is inspired, then you are compelled to accept that legal sanctions may appropriately be applied to those who engage in homosexual behavior.

Hearing such ignorant, hate filled speech makes one think of another famous person who said, “The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press – in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past years.”

Who said this? Pat Robertson? Sarah Palin? Rick Warren? James Dobson? No, those are the words of Adolf Hitler.

From webpan.com on the topic of The American Religious Right

Many other Religious-Right myths just beg to be challenged: Premarital sex is against christian values? Not according to the bible, which condems adultery, but not sex between two people who are both unmarried (see the responses page for a dissenting viewpoint, and this for an excellent rebuttal. ) Abortion is murder? Not according to Exodus 21 [22], which considers killing a fetus only a minor misdemeanor (reference). Homosexuality condemned by “millenia of moral teaching”? Pure fiction. The ancient Greek and Roman civilizations considered homosexuality perfectly normal, so normal that in fact they did not even have a word for it. Many native societies considered it normal and acceptable as well. And even in the Christian world, there was never a universal agreement that homosexuality was wrong. In the words of Ken Collins:

Some modern Christian teachers allege that the church has officially considered homosexuality to be morally wrong, but that long dogmatic tradition doesn’t extend much farther back than the 1960s, and even then only in certain sects. For example, the current edition of the United Methodist Book of Discipline has a lot to say about homosexuality, but the topic doesn’t even appear in 1965 edition or in any earlier edition of the same book. If this is such an important historic dogma of the Christian Church, we might reasonably ask why it is not listed as such in historical documents. We might ask, ‘Why were the seven ecumenical councils silent on this topic?’ Historically, there has always been a debate among Christians on this topic, and the categorical judgments against gays are recent, not ancient.

I would add that even if such universal and long-standing condemnation existed, it would be irrelevant, considering the many grave errors in moral judgement that Christians commited throughout the centuries, of which approval and defense of slavery is only one example.

Additionally there is a section from this site where homosexuality is discussed at length and the Fundamentalist proof-texting is abolished.

This discussion continues and expands in an article entitled “When Christ Was Gay”:

“This is how they “love the sinner,” by abusing them in order to make money? The term “mockery” doesn’t begin to describe the trashing these so-called Christians are doing to God’s name. The Religious Right should get down on their knees and beg the forgiveness of every homosexual man or woman they have publicly condemned on their way to the bank. They should beg God’s forgiveness for being just like the wicked servant in Christ’s story, forgiven of their own sinful lifestyles but unwilling to forgive the lifestyles of their fellow human beings. And then they should stop their self-righteous rhetoric and remember that for a moment in their savior’s life, as he hung on a cross for everyone’s sin, that Christ was gay.”


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